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This forum page is for the riders like yourself  that would like to respond to a particular situation or make a suggestion for the WNYOA organization. This is the place for riders to tell others what they thought of the race track, promoter, how the race was run, etc.  Any comments, questions, or things that need to be brought up should be placed here so we can improve our race series for the good of the riders.

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Wanted to say to Darrin and his family that we are keeping you in our thoughts. As a quad rider and the father of a bike rider this is a sobering reminder of how dangerous this sport can be when something goes wrong. I was thinking that perhaps we should put together a fund for Darrin's family and for other riders and their family's in times like these. I know of, and have donated to the rider down foundation, but something a little more locally oriented might be helpful as well. The financial burden can get excessive when you consider the cost of fuel and food when you must travel to be with an injured loved one in the hospital.
Get well Darrin.
Louis Loiselle Quad #836
Louis Loiselle JR Bike #721

With our sincere prayers and thoughts of peace, we wish for a complete and expedient recovery for your son Darrin.  We also extend our well wishes to Darrin's entire family as this time is undoubtedly exhausting. 

The Crouse Family

Just wanted to say the whole RideOrDie Crew and the Wolff Family are keeping Darrin and his family in our prayers and thoughts. Darrin, your a tough kid and I know you'll fight through all this man!

--Matt Wolff

Thoughts & Prayers to Darrin and his family while he recuperates..If there is anything WNOYA can do to help the family through this, all you have to do is call..

Becky Jones

doc

We would like to send out our thoughts & prayers to Darrin Strong & his family as he recuperates at the Bassett Hospital in Cooperstown since his accident at Unadilla on sunday. Even though we have never met, we are thinking of you & hope for a speedy recovery. Get well soon your fellow class rider # 733 Ryan VanCamp & family
When Darrin crashed two WNYOA members that are paramedic trained responded immediatly possibly preventing more injuries. I think ray was talking to Eric Nybek (STER member who was parked near him) whose son races some of the series and I'm
sure many of you know Dave Lord... they were first on the scene to help Darrin. We will put Darrin on our prayer list and lets also thank the riders and families that when there is an emergency come together and help. Just Another reason our series grows so consistenly... and I
 have heard it many times from new comers that they like the people.
 
Greg Calkins

Hi, first off I would like to say great season to everyone. This was my first season of racing and I hope next year that people decide not to throw away any races. I was one of the people that voted at the beginning of the season not to throw any races away because what other sport do you know of that says they will let your bad days go. I showed up to every race with the intent to win, didn't win a single race, and when it was all said and done I should have won the championship by 12 points. Instead I lost by 16 and ended up with a 2nd place finish in points. For myself, I say that wasn't to bad it's just very discouraging that I raced my heart out 14 of 14 races this season, stayed consistent, and when it come down to the last four races of the season, I lost a lot of points. Just because of this, I am debating on running another season. It really sucks. I just wish that since four of my races got thrown out, I could get my entry fee back for them, I didn't run them for no thing. I just want what mine and what I battle for all season, the championship. I was the only one by looking at these points that this affected. This rule will depend on a lot of people running next season. Thank you, and again great season to all.

Tony #832, 251 open c

I would like to thank the Barnes crew for putting together an excellent course for the PW riders of Unidilla.  Without their efforts,  our young riders would not have been able to participate in the GNCC.  This was huge for the kids to know that they were part of this national event.  Realize one thing,  without our volunteer base, this would not be possible.  Thanks again to Larry, Dave, Lisa, Phil, Roger and Jim S. for making it happen.     Mike, Sherri, Nick and Kevin #150
In regards to points for working a race. I don't think making everyone work a race would be fair. Not everyone who does this is in it for a first place trophy in the end. Some people just do it because it's fun and they enjoy racing. Don't get me wrong winning is great, but it is not everything to everyone.  You can not take first place from someone buy working a race unless you can see into the future. You have to sign up at least 4 weeks in advance to get the extra 5 points for working a race. The rules also state that in the event of a tie in points the person who worked a race would win the tie. I guess everyone had fair warning that working an event was a good thing. I am sure this was done to get all the help they could from the riders. Not everyone who worked a race is getting a first place trophy. Let us not make the workers think they did something un sports men like.  The tracks need the workers and so do the people who race. Working is a GOOD thing to do.   What it comes down to is everyone has the right to choose. Not everyone will race all the events, not everyone will race enough to get an award, and not everyone will work an event.  We are all informed about the rules and we can choose what we want to do.  Isn't that the good old American way.   God Bless America! Quad racer
I think it's great that WNYOA encourages riders to work events and earn 25 points. But on the other hand being able to use those extra 5 points to move another racer out of a points lead is wrong. My son takes pride in knowing that he earned his points by riding the best that he could threw the entire season. Just like his father last year he will not receive his 1st place trophy because he choose to ride all season. If WNYOA wanted to be fair they should require every rider to work at least one event to receive a year end trophy. I wouldn't be proud to know my son received a trophy because he knew working a race would promote him in points, this is not good sportsmanship.
 
Mini Mom  
The WCMC did an excellent with this years enduro!!  The 1 - loop format was way better than running the same loop twice and it was cool to ride the Hogback trails - combined into the enduro.  Resets were just right to give you time to rest and then charge again.  You guys did a great job and I appreciate all of your hard work you guys did to improve the Enduro.  Keep up the good work and we'll see you again next year:)

Tom Cox
Vet B
Anyone out their that knows richard vonderchek, jr, if you could please tell him to contact david chambers it would be appreciated. Thank you, Dave.
70th Annual Newark Enduro was the best that I've seen the Wayne County Motorcycle Club put on.  In fact it was the best enduro that I've ever ridden.  Sign up was organized, the course was well marked with just the right level of challenge and the right amount of trail, with the right mix of trails, and with no unnecessary mud bogs.  And thank you to the volunteer check workers.  The trail clearing was amazing, especially considering the major windstorm that hit the region less than a week before the event.  My hat is off to the WCMC and all of the hard work that they put into this event.  Great job guys!!!

- Matt Ryder, 4-Stroke C
The weather here in NY is always changing.. You have to be ready for anything.. I guess what should have been done was when the hill started getting to muddy, people should have been made to park at the bottom, for safty reasons. Instead of those kids running around in the UTV all day and night, it could have been used to offer rides up the hill..
while reading others comments on this forum I do understand their frustrations, however you cannot control the weather, you are choosing to attend an off road event...so it is what it is...an OFF ROAD EVENT.  If you do not have the means to travel up/down a muddy road then turn around and go home or park @ the bottom of the hill and walk, there was plenty of parking @ the bottom of the hill @ square deal.  Sure it sucks to have to walk, but you gotta do what you gotta do!!  Yes the youth track @ square deal is bumpy, but again, it is what it is....an OFF ROAD EVENT.  If the tracks were the same every race how much fun would that be??  I think some people are being too hard on the folks who hold these events.  Where would we be without them....stuck with no place to ride!!!  So thank you to all the landowners who hold these events and also a big thank you to those who work these events.  Eric Reeves desrves a big thanks for all the "crap" he puts up with too being the youth quad coordinator!!!   Thank you Eric!  And also thank you Scottie Rich for setting the youth track up @ square deal and thank you for the extra 5 minutes for the youth quads!!

Lyndon & Jessica Allis, Hunter Allis #868
Square Deal officials ought to be ashamed of themselves for not knowing how to start a race.  The bike start was absolutely ridiculous.  The flagger went down the line ONLY 4 or 5 riders deep and then raised the flag.  On the first line, AA, beyond the first 5 bikes on the flagger's right, the remaining wave was not even ready to start, and that should have been obvious because one bike was still running.  It was an inappropriate start and the entire line should have been called back to restart.  The flagger continued to start each wave the same way and that is NOT what our riders are accustomed to and there was no mention of it on the line.  There was no reason for this even when starting the waves 20 seconds apart.  It was a dis-service to our riders and let's hope it gets corrected next year!  Elaine Davis
I too saw the ambulance being towed up the hill.. and while standing there watching the minis cross the road, a truck pulling the River Ratz trailer was told to stop because there were kids coming.. He heard everyone yelling at him, he saw the caution flags waving, but kept going. I would have never expected such disrespect for our younger riders, from a promotor!! You could have really gotten one of these kids killed... And your race was a total wreck also.. your pit race contained 65cc, mini quads and whoever wanted to act like a fool..Saturday before noon  there were drunks on bikes, quads, no helmets and double riding.....Most of these people were your workers!!!!! And you footed the bill!!!! Even a quad during the mini race on Sunday came through the scanner with 2 riders on it..WNYOA needs to start taking some of these things serious.. I'm sure theres got to be a few promotors out there that would love to be put on the Schedule...Angie Dicks
I have just a few comments on the race at beldin hills. I have been a member of wynoa for three years. We as a team arrived at the track at 11.35, The owner or who ever he was ,came storming over to us and started giving us a hard time about being there 25 min early.....NEVER HAD A PROBLEM ANYWHERE ELSE. He told us that HIS gates open at 12 and that we needed to learn how to read. I have been insulted in my life, but this MAN/BOY takes the cake. This promoter needs to get a grip on life.
 
Also this MAN/BOY has had a few races at this track,FIX THE ROAD That was soooooo ridiculous I cant believe it. The dude on the tractor just really didn't care,he just hooked on to the cars and took off pulling you where ever he thought was ok,let alone into other cars/trees or what ever.owwwwww and lets just tow the ambulance up AFTER THE RACES ALREADY STARTED   geee thats real safe ya think ???? what would of happened if someone got hurt ?? how would they get down that hill?? Lets all think about that one. And just one more thing  why don't we just stick TEN KIDS IN A UTV and let them ride around all night with NO HELMETS.  WYNOA needs to really take a look at what happened at this race and take them off the list of races for 2009. i will not attend another race there. we will go and find a real race track !!!!!!!!! 
 
 
 
                      BELDIN HILLS WAS THE WORST RUN TRACK I HAVE EVER ATTENDED
 
 
Father of a quad rider Shaun Drake
The Worst of Racing and hopefully last at Square Deal.  A little Common Sense will go a long long way when it comes to mud and vehicles.  Tractors ARE NOT just for pulling vehicles up thru mud but also come in handy for.......Scalping the Mud off the ROAD!  Would have saved time, damage and eliminated some of the danger!!!!!!!  Very unsafe!  Our Kids had to ride their bikes up and back down....The tractor operator apparently did NOT know how to scalp the road of mud...........and I heard he had a lil mishap pulling one vehicle into another.  I and several others hollered to him to use the bucket on the mud, to no avail.  I witnessed another woman [kudos to her] telling him the same thing to which he replied;  why don't you work it?  She replied that she already worked two clubs [kudos again] and this man still did not heed the advice.  The track for the peewees..............well........very rough still and hard to race........jars the poor kids who had problems just staying on their bikes.  Time to make changes or just opt out for this club.  Sorry but not getting any better there.  It was a very stressful race just trying to get parked, watching the horror of the vehicles trying to climb thru all the mud while the tractor sat, sliding every which way and trying to avoid other cars/trucks..........It was a HORROR SHOW!  Shameful!  To answer the question some of you are asking, why don't I join a club and work the track?  I work work work.................a single Grandmother with only myself to rely on and blessed just to be able to get to the races.  So please, just use some common sense and courtesy to those just squeaking by to get the privilege to see the races.

Bright and Warm Blessings
Sassee, Grandmother to 3 racers
Thanks to all who prayed, called and concerns for my well being after the accident at Knobby Acres.It was thoughtful and kind. I am also thanking God for not getting seriously hurt as well as to thank Him for using me to pull the young boy out of harms way. I hope he is ok too. I would like to know who the boy is. email me at jwilczfam@yahoo.com or call me (315) 252-0475. Thanks so much. Phyllis Wilczek
I'm from the elmira,ny area and im looking for some new places to ride. if you have a area send me a email at ktm200xc@yahoo.com..
I want to personally thank Eric Reeves for all he does for the youth quad series.  If it wasn't for Eric the youth quad series would not exist.  Eric put together the best track so far this year at Knobby Acres, it was an awesome track and our son loved it.  Eric thank you for all the time and energy you put in for our kids.   It does not go unnoticed and we appreciate it so very much.  This is our first year in the series and you have made it a lot of fun for our kids.

Dale and Paula Slocum

Parents to Jake Slocum #880 (90 Limited) and Nick Slocum #710 (Teen)
The best of the year's racing at River Ratz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Fantastic lay out, lots of helpful workers and lots of parking.  Kudos to you all at River Ratz!  Thank you for an enjoyable day of racing!
Bright and Warm Blessings
Sassee Arnold Grandmother to three riders!
I would like to say good job once again to River Rats. This is the 
second year my son and I have worked the race. And this is the second 
year I have listened to bike riders complain about sweepers using 
quads on the track during the bike race. Well the sweepers are out 
there for your help and some of us, me for one, are not very good on 
bikes, and would be more of a problem than help. Maybe Enderos are 
the place for those who complain, that is something us quad riders 
dont have the privlidge to do. So lets all enjoy the last three 
harescrambles and remember to thank those who help. Be safe. Father 
of mini c rider Jordan LaFave
I am displeased at people racing out of class, I'm a senior c rider, and was mad to see other riders at overall place number 99. I never complain and let things go, but I see a rider in my class placed in the 60s overall.I thought the rule of winning 4 races consecutively you got bumped up, I must have been wrong.
Hi my father lost his keys to his truck at the river ratz harescramble. it is a single black key. He says he thinks to have lost it near the restrooms in the center of the pits. If anyone finds it could you please contact me at motomen@frontiernet.net.thanks Tyler Scultes #669 250c
**ALL RIDERS, FAMILY MEMBERS, FRIENDS, PIT CREWS, AND SPECTATORS** I was lined up in the starting area for the bike race this past weekend, and witnessed a very close incident with a young child and a bike. I also was spectating the quad race in the afternoon and  witnessed some very careless incidents with kids out on the course. Our series has experienced tremendous growth the last couple of years not only in the numbers of riders, but also the number of people spectating the event. There has been a couple of close calls this year, at other races, and if things continue as they are, it is just a matter of time before we have a very serious accident with a child, and bike or quad. There are young kids not only at the starting area, but also out on the course that are not looking before walking on, or crossing the course. Please as parents and guardians, I am asking that you have a talk with your children in the next couple of weeks about the danger of not looking before walking on, or crossing the race course. We do not put any restrictions as to where people can go and watch, like other motorcycle racing do, help WNYOA keep that possible by keeping everyone safe.  CHUCK REED  RIDER REP. 

I would just like to say thank you to the men and women that made the River Ratz track, and worked the event! You did a phenomenal job, and in my opinion it was the track of the year by far. I loved the hills and did not mind the dust. The course workers were great, and when I crashed on a hill a course worker was right there too give me a hand. So kudos on a great race and an amazing track!

A.J. Scheffler

I would like to congratulate NATE THOMAS on a outstanding ride against CHRIS BORICH at river rats!!!!!!! Great job!!!! Al Dukerich
Thanks to the guys out in the woods during the youth quad race at Thunder Ridge.  Our son flipped his machine and it was only his 3rd race, we were pretty proud that he got right back on and finished the race.  It is people out there watching over the kids that make them want to continue.  Thanks again for watching out for him.

Paula Slocum
Mom to (Jake Slocum #880, 90 Limited) (Nick Slocum #710 Teen)
I think that the curfew time really needs to be inforced. At the race 2 weeks ago,
some gentlemen came into the camping area at 1:30-2:00 am , yelling and
caring on.Then they started their generator up at 2:00 for the rest of the night.
Now I know that they don't have to race in the early morning but  what about the
rest of our small children who do. PLEASE be more concentrate to your fellow
racers. Amy Kneebone
Thank you to Thunder Ridge too for the trophies for the mini's. We have over 60 plaques, so receiving a nice trophy every once in a while is great Idea. More promoters should consider it.     Ann Turcsik
Thank you Thunder Ridge for giving all Pee Wee riders (even Quads)
trophies.  More promoters should think about giving all pee wee quad
riders trophies.  I am sure the adult riders would pass them up to give
them to the kids.  Thanks again.

Kim Cotton
I would just like to thank the guy at Thunder Ridge who gave me gas a mile from the barrels, not too sure who it was but I really appreciate it!!! Thanks again, Nina Cobb #2 & 912
I left an fmf umbrella at thunder ridge in the barn when they were giving out plaques after the big quads. It has Hub written on the strap that holds it all together.  I would very much appreciate getting it back if you picked it up.  Contact me at Hubbell521@aol.com and let me know if you have it.  I can pick it up at River Ratz.   Thanks much.  Austin Hubbell 811

If you picked up a Monster Umbrella at the King Ferry race up by the start, please turn it in at sign up with my name on it or contact me.. IThanks

rjwnyoa@yahoo.com

Hey, I just got home from the King Ferry race. While there my pit neighbors brought it to my attention that my EZ-UP my have caused some damage to another families RV at the IDR race. My tent was broken when I finished the race and I was sure that something had happened. I didn’t hang out for to long after the race as I got caught on the barbwire and had to go for a few stitches. Please contact me so that I can make it right by you. Also, thank you for setting it back up and lowering it. I don’t know why I didn’t stake it I usually do. 

 

Shawn #966

H- 315 889 5823

C- 518 879 9002

We would like to compliment the IDR race promotor for laying out one of the best youth quad tracks so far this year. It was wide enough for the kids to pass without difficulty and without having to wait for an opening. It was not just a one line track with all of the kids backed up and not able to pass. Thanks for the great job!  Pat and Amy Lord
LOST!!! At High Gear, I lost my bright orange truck nutz off the back of my quad not even half way through the first lap of the race. If anyone picked them up or has them I would really like them back. If you can leave them at the sign-in tent or email me at Santee_7@hotmail.com just to let me know that you have them it would be greatly appreciated. 
 
Thanks, Britni  #188 Womens Quad #906 Womens Bike
To the Mini Rider "Ames", (I can't remember your number)  I have your goggles and will bring them to the next race, King Ferry. I am sorry that I did not get them to the barrels after that race but I had to run to the Mini Quad race and then the big bike start. You can look for the "Flat Broke" camp or I will bring them to the start of the mini's.  I  didn't want you to worry about getting a new pair this week if you didn't have a spare. Josh (22) and Justin's  (822) Mom, Amy Lord
I would just like to ask that those who run generators after the curfew,please think about others who are trying to sleep.There was a generator at berkshire that ran ALL NIGHT long,my nephew who races mini's got a total of about 3 hours sleep that night. The generator was near a large Bounder motorhome,almost at the end of the camping area,and this was a portable one not a self contained generator. IDR did a great job on the race by the way!!!!
I would like to thank the three guys who helped me out when I ran out of gas at the IDR hare scramble.  I still didnt finish very well but at least I had the chance to complete the race. Its People like that who make this sport so much fun. Thanks again Judd Callear #65 Open A
  Did anyone pickup some black scott goggles at Ithaca Dirt Riders race on sunday?(someone did). They have tear-off posts on them with no tear offs. I put them after the start on the hill turns before the woods. Even if they got ran over I would appriciate it if you would please contact me or/and bring them to the sign in tent next race.
    Thank you IDR for making a realllyy nice track.

Eric Otto # 742 125-200C  o_e_otto@yahoo.com
IDR, you put on a great show. The track was awesome, and very fast. Some muddy section but not like it could have been seeing how you got rained on a couple of days before. To all of the racers, PLEASE, when you are pulling over for gas, look around you before you lock up the brakes and turn sideways. Right after the timing tent on the first lap, I was behind someone that decided at the last second they were going to pit and never turned his head. We were both tapped out in 4th-5th gear and when he turned, we slammed into eachother, thankfully we both stayed on our wheels. Then after the race, I heard that he went against traffic right after that. PLEASE don't do that, I got my knee and my bike tore up pretty good. To all of the spectators, PLEASE, when you are going to cross the track make sure no one is coming. On the second lap, right after the timing tent, as I came out of the tent a girl decided to cross the track and look the opposite way that I was coming from. I was moving pretty good and all I could do to warn her was rev my bike up to move her. This is how people get hurt. I don't want to sound like a jerk, I just don't like getting hurt because someone elses lack of common sense and I definetly don't want to see someone else get hurt. If people get hurt, WNYOA won't be able to keep going because of insurance. Stay safe but ride hard. Last thing, I feel that every class should have a colored tag on the back of their helmet like we did at Unadilla last year. I do my best to watch numbers when I'm riding, but when you come to a day rider, they are all 200 series numbers and you can't tell if they are in your class or not. I give props to day riders for coming and riding with us, but I hate following them through the timing gate when the checkered flag is out and losing a spot because I didn't know they were in my class. Who else thinks that this is a good idea? Please post so WNYOA knows. Thank you and hope to see all of you at the r aces, Good luck and be careful. Tony Musto, 251 Open C #832
Thank you to all the riders and parents who participated in the Cortland Rodney Smith and Steve Hatch riding clinic.  It was two days of a lot of fun.  A big thank you to Mark and Cindy Davis for a beautiful piece of property to learn on.  Thank you to Rick and Barbara Barron for providing Saturday lunch.  It was a great group of people and we are very grateful for a successful weekend of riding. To the riders for having a great attitude in the fun filled rainy day and to learn how to ride rain or shine.  Your awesome.

Hope to see you all at the races, good luck, remember we are always here if you need anything. Keep working hard, full throttle ahead.

Rodney and Lori Smith
Steve and Denise Hatch   (stevehatchracing.com) 

Saturday between 3:30 and 6:00 at the Rich campsite, we are having cupcakes and a bounce house in celebration of Julian Richs 5th birthday which is Sunday the 20th. We want to invite anyone who wants to stop by our campsite to join us for a little birthday fun!! (Gifts not necessary).  Julian looks forward to seeing his race buddies. 

Thanks,

Scottie Rich and family

I would like to thank Rodney & Lori Smith and Steve & Denise Hatch for putting on the riding clinic this weekend at Knobby Acres. What you guys taught those kids was something that will raise their riding ability a tremendous amount.I've seen several clinics put on before, but what you brought to them will stay with them the rest of their lives. Saturday was nice & dry. Sunday was....well....a torrential downpour, yet you stayed. Kudos to you dedicated racing people that are willing to share your vast knowledge & experience with others. Anyone that thinks they need to work on areas of their riding skills should attend their clinic this week in Berkshire. Once again, thank you so much.....Ron Jones
Many thanks to John Houston and all the people who helped to put on a great event at the Beaten Trails Harescrambles!  It has been a few years since racing a NY state race and I was excited to see many great friends from the past as I grew up in Ithaca, prior to now living in Arizona.  Saturday night I called my old teammate and buddy Rodney Smith to go race the New York state local Beaten Trails Harescramble the following morning.  Half way through the race, at gas, Rodney said “I need to train if I’m going to be racing again.”  I had Lee Rowland in from SC to train and I had him race the harescrambles to experience some upstate NY terrain. After finishing Lee said “sure are a lot of rocks here!” He had a blast!  Very different from the flat sand area he rides in SC.  A couple of years ago, I transitioned from professional racing to now, training up and coming guys. Rodney Smith did his transition from racing to training Suzuki’s East coast and West coast teams last winter.  We both know how important it is to train and be in shape even to race local races! We both had a great time and enjoyed seeing old friend’s and racing in NY states beautiful countryside.  We both thought the track was technical and fun.  Myself and Rodney are in upstate for a few weeks to visit family and put on riding clinics for the locals here in NY.  We will offer three clinics at different locations and cover not only riding techniques, but also training on and off the bike, sponsors, nutrition, and mental focus.   To get the dates, locations and times check out my new website at  m or www.stevehatchracing.cocall Lori Smith at 925-437-8093 or email her at rodsuz@sbcglobal.net.  If you can’t make the clinics and want more training, I am also offering video clips on his website that cover all techniques on the motorcycle. I was impressed to see such a great turnout to the NY Harescrambles series. Rodney and I look forward to seeing everyone at the Berkshire Harescrambles and the Unadilla GNCC in Sept.    Full Roost! Steve Hatch
lost my digital camera.....it was in a small green and black zippered canvas case at Miles Mountain.......phone 814-778-6161 e-mail gail.payne.ent@verizon.net.  It has pictures of Mini Rider #32 on the card.
Lost at Beaten Trails 6/29:  Prm swingarm skid plate during quad race.
Its the thickest skid plate PRM makes .250.  These things are expensive
so if somebody found it please return it to Tom Edsell or leave it at
rider registration. It could also be returned to me in the pits,  my
rider number is 628.  It would really help me out if it was found and
returned.  Tsedsell@gmail.com.
Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know about a school that Shane Watts is hosting in Lansing, NY on August 8 & 9. Go to the school and then on to Thunderridge.  For more information, go to    http://www.shanewatts.com/ridingschools.aspx

We would like to send our most sincere condolences to James Traphagen as he lost his wife in a tragic accident on Monday.  We are thinking of you and your family during this difficult time.

Scottie Rich and Family

Hi, I lost my right side hand guard(aluminum and plastic peice) at the Beaten Trails bike race. It is black and it is the Moose hand guard combo. If there is any chance that someone found this or knows someone that found this please let me know. We all know how expensive these things are and how much we really need these during a harescramble. Please contact me as soon as possible because I don't want to have to buy new ones if I don't have to. Get at me at tmusto@corning-cc.edu, 607-377-5224 or 607-425-0426. This would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tony #832

From Mike and Sherri Johnson - to those who made it successful, thank you very much for your help and participation.  We at WNYERA are greatful for all that went right.  From almost canceling three weeks before our date, to having so many step up and help us pull it off.  -  Thank you.  To everyone that came to ride and race, thanks for understanding that we were under great pressure to make sure that a few outsiders couldn't find fault and that the WNYOA "off roaders" really are a "good bunch of people". 

Enjoy your weekend off.  I'm sure most of you wont be to far from your machine!

Thanks again,

WNYERA 

Found at the Beaten Trails hare scramble event on June 29, 2008 - Chest protector and Camelback.  To identify , please contact John Houston at 607 642-9551

I worked the Beaten Trails event.  I found a black pair of Scott goggles and a kick starter.  I also have a pair of green goggles from the mini race ( I believe #102).  I will give these items to the sign up crew at IDR.  If the person missing the kick starter would like it back earlier and would like to pick it up contact me at bford154@yahoo.com.

P:S 

I know the track turned out to be quite difficult due to the rain we recieved last week, but everyone at Beaten Trails put in many hours laying out a course that would be fun and challenging for all. 

#112

I left a goggle container and gas can (right after the grass track) in the woods at Alexander.  The goggles were in a tupperware container with a Suspension Systems decal on the lid.  Inside were 3 or 4 pairs of goggles, a pair of gloves and misc. goggles supplies.  Beside the goggle container, I also left a red 2 gallon gas can.  If anyone has information re these items, please contact Jim DiFonzo, Senior A #402.  I can be reached on my cell @ 716-485-3267 or e-mail @ jimdifonzo@windstream.net.  Also, hats off to the WNYERA club.  You guys always put on a great race and this year was no different.  I know there was a lot of last minute scrambling to pull all the trail together, but it was certainly worth it from a riders perspective. 
I just wanted to thank all those who attended Miles Mountain this past weekend.  Hopefully you had an enjoyable experience.  I especially wanted to thank all the volunteers for their countless hours.  To Ray for his many, many hours behind the scenes developing the scoring system and Deb for all her work at sign up.  Also Roger, the wizard behind the curtain for all his hard work.  If anyone did not get their plaque or knows someone who did not, please let me know and we can make arrangements to bring it to an upcoming event.  Thanks again.  Jeremy, Miles Mountain
I'd like to thank everyone that puts on the Beaten Trails race for a great event last year & for what i know will be another great race! Thanks to Dan Leonard & everyone that helps him put it together, but most of all to Pete Houston & family. I know he puts in a lot of hard work & preparation to make the race possible. Once again. thank you Beaten Trails & to everyone responsible for making it happen!. Hope to see everyone there this weekend......and bring ur rain gear!  :o)      Ron Jones,proud grandfather of Marcus, Mini B rider # 100
At Alexander, I believe my gas can was mistaken for their own. It's a 2 gallon can that was in the last right-hand sweeper corner before the first woods. The can that I found left there was the same type and size gas can but has a Motorex, Race Tools and MSR stickers on it, also a very little straight gas. Mine didn't have any sticker and it, but was full of 2-stroke gas, which we all know is better gas than 4 stroke gas(woops, did I say that out loud, just kidding). If you recognize this, let me know, Thank You
Jim Dempsey #998 (Yea, that Black old junker KTM)
607-734-7909
ClancyGT@cs.com
We would like to thank everyone who was concerned about Derek after the bikes race at Alexander. He had a bad crash and hit his knee off a tree, but he is fine, he just has a deep bruise to the side of his knee. Thanks so much, The Holcomb Family.
Hello all, What a great season! Wow...good job promotors, racers and fans! It's been fun for sure.. We're looking for Nate's front number plate from Alexander.. #711 Red White and Blue PG graphix...N8dogg on the top of it.  We could really use it back...it is so expensive...plus he had 2 Narly crashes that left carnage on the YZ.....gotta replace the left radiator, shroud..etc.  Please consider bringing it to the next race... Many people saw it and even tried to retrieve it, but could not hold on to their bars and it for very long.  Huge thanks for your attempts guys!  Couse Racing N8dogg #711 Hey...How's Derek????  Hope your leg feels better Derek...  We're all thinkin' 'bout ya!

I want to thank the sign up crews for all their hard work to get everyone signed up as quickly as possible. However, I think with the rapidly-expanding size of the rider contingent, WNYOA needs to explore some type of online pre-entry for the hare scramble events. Then once at the event, the rider could confirm that they are at the race. The sign up line at Dream Riders took well over an hour to negotiate. Dan Jarecke Vet A

hi would just like to send out a excellent start to new season to Scott Rich, to go from bikes to quads thats no easy task so my hats off to you my friend, keep it up and kick butt and take names. " aka The teacher " Rick Armstrong

GREAT JOB TO ALL OF THE ARCADIA BARK BUSTERS. Your event was a great event, and also the weather was great. I walked around the pits, the starting area, track, signup, scoring area, and I could tell that you put in a lot of time and effort in putting on a quality Hare Scramble. Your trails were in my opinion excellent, they had a good mix of grass track and technical tight trail, and plenty of places to pass. The scoring ares was placed in a very convenient location so things could be easily accessed. The pits were awesome starting with the cones down the middle for a roadway and also the mowed fields for parking, also a dumpster for trash, plenty of porta johns. You had a great area for your emergency squads and a roadway for them to get there equipment in and out of. This is a again in my opinion, a testament to what can happen when you have a group of dedicated off-road bike and quad riders that truly love this sport, and would like to continue making it a better sport. You only get out of what you have, by what you put into it, and it shows that everyone involved put in a tremendous amount of man hours. In ending this I would like to say the most amazing accomplishment of this event is that it was all put together in the last 5 weeks. Again hats off to you all, for your dedication to this great Hare Scramble. CHUCK REED #879 B-SENIOR AND BIKE RIDER REP.

The "perfect race!" The guys that put this race on (in 4 weeks I might add!) did an incredible job - hats off to them - they couldn't have done it any better! 

 

I talked to so many riders, not only did they love the track, they had a good time - isn't that what it's all about? Thanks for putting the spirit back into the race guys. Excellent job!

 

-Jackie C.

 

I have been riding Hare Scrambles since the Mid 70’s and I can honestly says that your event ranked right up there as being one of the best laided out tracks and superior service and sign –up…………Great job by all……….Thanks You

 

Dominic Sileo

Manager , Product Test

607-751-2826 

Dom.Sileo@LMCO.com

 

Just wanted to say that the Arcadia Bark Buster Race was excellent!!! Especially considering that the crew only had a few weeks to get a track laid out and the event organized. The course workers should be quite proud as well...there a couple troublesome spots, but the workers were on top of them quickly...temporarily re-routing while they filled in ruts, or pulled bikes out. Kudos Arcadia!! Mark B...#543

I ,too, would like to thank Arcadia Bark Busters for such a well organized event and laid out track. The camping area was great and located so everything was easily accessed without long walks. The track was laid out not only good for racing but for those of us that can only watch. There were numerous places that a good deal of the track could be seen. Us spectators and support people like to see not only their riders but the whole field for more than a short glance over a 2 hour period. The length of Arcadia's track was perfect, therefore the field was able to do more laps and we as spectators were able to see more action. Once again, GREAT job and thanks to the Busters and all that helped to make the event so successful. On another note, and this is a little biased. could those that give the talk at the starting line before each event stress to the riders that if someone comes up behind them and is trying to get by to please pull over and let them pass. This is not only courteous but can help prevent riders from taking unnecessary chances. Granted Arcadia's track had plenty of grass track to pass in however,being such a good viewing track I could see many long trains of bikes in the woods with a few slow bikes holding up many others. After viewing this as a spectator. I talked to several riders and they confirmed that slow bikes weren't letting them by. Maybe some riders aren't aware that they are causing this.

Thanks again to everyone that make these weekend soooo fun!!! Chris....Neen's dad #2

To the Arcadia Bark Busters, I hope the rest of the races are just like that one. You helped all of us riders put on a great show. I was glad to see that we finally got to a hare scramble and out of the fields. You spaced the open spots out perfect so when our bikes got heated up, we would have a good straight strech to cool them back down. It was also very nice to get into a technical course and see how everyone can really ride. Thank you so much, Hope to see you again next year. To all of the other riders, Congrats for being able to going. The course was very technical and yet there were not very times when riders were down. Good Job. Tony #832

Just checking in to see how Mary, the young lady from the mini's class, is doing. She took a spill at the harescrambles and bumped her leg pretty bad. She was quite a trooper about it, though. Hope she is doing well! Jim Heffron Course worker

 

Kudos to Arcadia! They made a major impression on our group. Was grand to see the head's spread out. :) The layout was very good. I mentioned letting the peewee signups get moved up in line for registration and they did. How great is that? Courteous people and great support team. I just want to remind everyone; please pick up after yourselves......Please be courteous back. Smokers [which I am one] please put your butts in garbage....it's no wonder smokers get bad names with the careless attitudes of disposal. Three cheers to the Arcadia crew!!!!!!!!!!

 

Bright and Warm Blessings

Sassy Arnold Grandmother to three riders!

I lost my rear grab bar at some point during the quad race at arcaidia...if anyone happened to pick it up could you email me at sxcracing@hotmail.com or call 607-316-7519 or just bring it to the next race and leave it at the signup tent. That would be great! Its a PRM product rear grab bar. Thank you so much Brad Schultes Quad # 415

I personally would like to commend the Arcadia Bark Busters for conducting an outstanding Hare Scramble this past weekend. This club was formed four weeks ago and in that short time frame they not only met all the AMA requirements but also designed a course and conducted and event that people enjoyed. There were 532 riders in attendance which is over 100 riders greater than the average hare scramble conducted last year.

 

Ray Goulet

 

Ditto on the great organization, marked trail and friendly reception as we entered the field and at sign up.

 Hats off for a job well done.

 

 Ed Ponikvar

Just a quick note to the guys in the 250 A line. It was nice meeting and bench racing with you fellas after the race. Near last off the line it was pretty cool that no one punted me off any of the bridges as we tore through the first part of the grass track. Nice to finish a race with a little bar banging and creative lines without any complaints from anyone. I think I finally found the class that excepts my off the pegs attempts to get faster and race the coarse as hard as I can. Thanks for introducing me to a great bunch of guys Tom.

 

I would like to give a hats off salute to ALL of the promoters that put on races for the WNYOA series! Being part of Arcadia and working as hard as we did to pull off the event I have a whole new respect for everyone involved in ANY event. There is so much that goes into putting on an event, I had no clue, until involved first hand. All promoters, workers and anyone involved in any aspect of putting on a race deserve kudos and I'll be the first to say thank you and thank you ahead of time for the upcoming races. Keep up the good work. Jerry Bulman

423 West Ave

Newark NY 14513

315-331-2077

315-879-7344

Arcadia Barkbusters would like to give a big thanks to everyone who was involved in putting on this race in such a short time given. This includes the group of hard working men and women and their families and friends who worked extremely hard to put on an excellent race. Also to all of the other workers from the outside including the landowners, vendors, the businesses who supplied the necessary equipment or supplies that we needed, the Fairville Fire Dept. & ambulance crew, and anyone else that we may have missed. A big thank you to everyone else from Ray & Debbie and to all of the riders and spectators and their families and friends for supporting and giving us, a new promoter, a chance to show you that we are capable of providing a successful event. We couldn't have done it and suceeded with out you. Again a BIG THANKS to all & hope that everyone had a great time. See you next year. Debbie V.

I think everyone should know that Arcadia Bark Busters has had the most possitive comments posted since 2004

 

Great Job

 

R. Jones

Hello everyone. I was just wondering what everyone thought about the idea of when you work an event for WNYOA, as long as your a registered rider, you could get a plaque that said WORKED or PARTICIPANT. Would that give you more incentive on top of the 25 points to work an event? Everyone likes plaques, and this is a way to show that you worked the event on top of the 25 points. Please post here and let WNYOA know what you think about this idea. Tony #832

HATS OFF TO MY BRO NATE THOMAS FINISHING THIRD, AND ON THE PODIUM WITH THE PROS AT MILES MOUNTAIN. KEEP UP THE RAGE OF RACING , GOOD LUCK WITH WNYOA, BUT EVEN BETTER LUCK WITH THE NATIONALS!!!! GREAT JOB! NICK.THOMAS

The folks at Miles Mountain need take example from Arcadia on how to put on a good event. This year was a major disappointment. Delayed events and track workers with cavalier attitudes.......and drinking. My Grandson, Keegan Satterly ended up breaking down on the first lap way up in the woods. My daughter kept telling track officials he had not come back but they said to wait till the race was over. He is ten and we worried about his finding his way back. He finally did make it back with our Hero, Jim Bouden.....[hope I spelled correctly] who saved Keegan when he encountered a black bear and was about to run. Jim told him to stay still and pushed Keegan behind him. Fortunately the Bear realized he/she had met their match and decided to leave this Papa Bear alone!!!! The bear was as close as 5 feet away from them. Jim, I know everyone suggested throwing Keegan at the bear and making a run for it, :) but I am eternally grateful that you didn't. You are a blessing and our Hero! I then heard that the track people knew about this bear for a week and gave no warnings to the participants. Jeremy, you complained about the kids NOT staying with their bikes and stating that you knew about the bear. Shame on you. You can claim the bear is harmless all you want but anyone knows that it doesn't take much to set them off. The workers kept putting off going to find the bike and after a couple hours finally did take Keegan with them to get it. The poor Kid could not remember where and they came back frustrated and in the mean time we were worried about it getting stolen with all the gear on it. Oh, no, don't worry about that we were told. A friend of a friend became concerned when dark was approaching and took Jim with him on his 4 wheeler to get the bike while the workers stopped off for whatever......we did notice the beer can in the Kubota........So we come to our second Hero of the day, Chad. He had made trips around the track alone and could not find the bike until he got Jim to show him where. Jim was riding the bike back when the workers were finally on their way again. Two young men were by the bike when they arrived and Jim told them the bike didn't run, they stated that it did. Hmmmmmmmmm, what does this tell you? Chad and Jim got to the bike just in time. When it is peewee's or mini's I think the sweepers should be bringing these kids and their bikes back to the starting point. This has been a valuable lesson that I hope everyone will learn from. Also, it is time the Heads got cleaned up! We kept getting put off by numerous track people with non challant attitudes. Racing is not cheap and we do not usually stick around but this time we had no choice. I do give Kudos to the ladies working the concession, they were great! Again, I remind everyone to clean up after themselves...............

Bright and Warm Blessings Sassee Arnold, grandmother to three racers.

Parents please be aware of other kids riding pit bikes or bikes in general threw camping and grass areas. My 3 year old was hit by a girl wearing a bikini on a small pit bike? while waiting for results to be posted on the bulletin board at Miles Mountain. He was playing with other children running around when he ran out she was cutting in front of the board with the bike. Thank god she wasn't going any faster than she was. We didn't realize until after she took off that he had a good size gash on his wrist where skin was missing. We have been attending WNYOA events for 5 years and are fully aware of bikes and atvs cutting threw camping areas, but this girl was not a rider and there was no reason for her to be riding around. She was maybe 13 years old why she was riding around on bike in a bikini who knows.

 

MOM OF A MINI RIDER

First , I would like to say that I like the people at miles mt. and think they work real hard on putting on a race for all of us and for the most part do a great job.BUT , I have to say that pulling the sup.sen.A CLASS OFF THE LINE AT THE LAST MINUTE was riddiculous! STARTING THE SUP.SEN.A CLASS RIDERS IN FRONT OF THE VET A,AND SEN A in the late race was just plain STUPID !!!! THIS created a very hazardous situation in the first lap for both us older guys and the faster riders who had to pass us ,I dont like to say bad things about promoters because we need them! But , I figure it needs to be discussed so things like this do not happen again. All that out of the way,I would like to thank everyone involved with WNYOA and all the race promoters for all they do for us. THANK YOU,RON PARMELEE SUP SEN A. 




 
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