I wanted to thank Wade Huebner in the College C class, as well as the sweepers on the utility quads who helped me at Thunder Ridge when I was stranded in the woods and couldn’t open my eyes from all the mud on Sunday. Wade stopped and tried to use the water from his camelback to flush my eyes out and the sweepers that came around put me on a quad and brought me to the paramedics, along with going back up and riding my quad down to my truck. You guys have no idea how much I appreciate the help. Thanks again.

Christopher Brofcak #416

Quad Junior B

I want to add to the King’s Ferry quad race as well. Awesome track!!  This track has become my favorite one of the season. I can’t think of one part of it that I was disappointed with. Thanks for a great day!

Christopher Brofcak #416

Quad Junior B

There are a handful of Pee Wee parents that make the rest of us look bad in how they present themselves at these races. Our children are like little sponges, their job at this age is to take information in and learn from it. It’s a natural fact of life that humans learn by example. You can lecture your kids day in and day out, but what they really remember is your actions. It is important as parents that we understand the opportunity we have to teach these kids self confidence and proper sportsmanship in this sport. Good sportsmanship not only in this sport but in life in general refers to virtues of courage, self-control, determination, persistence, and mainly to act maturely and properly in cases when they lose. By us parents setting good examples and teaching proper sportsmanship we are showing our FUTURE how to learn to deal with failure and unfavorable conditions which is very important to develop fully and especially useful when they grow up and face the real world. A perfect way for our children to adopt good sportsmanship is by seeing it in the attitudes and behavior of the parents. Our ultimate goal should be a positive impact on the development of their character, enjoy the activity they are engaging in, fairness, sense of fellowship, respecting your opponents, and above all INTEGRITY. Remember that this sport is your child’s, not yours! They are our future, words of encouragement equals reassurance that they are worthy to do this sport and succeed in life. With this being said, start working together on the track instead of against each other. These are children learning a sport we have initially involved them in, how would you like if your child wrecked and everyone turned their back on him/her because they are the “so called competition.” This is my son’s first year racing, and he has told me numerous times that when he sees someone stopped, he stops and says are you ok, he is 6! We are adult’s, learn from my six year old. I tell my son that every race is for fun, yes it is nice to win, but as long as he has fun, he is not injured, and that he wants to do it again next week, that means we had a good day at the races. I hope you Pee Wee parents really read take this post and try to change how you are out there on the track, not only for yourself, but for the future of hare scramble racing. –J Carling

To everyone that complains about track conditions, this was a great track, but if you were in the same position I was, it was ridiculously tight. This is why racers should work some races, so you can have an input on things like this. I know I will probably work this race next year so we can hopefully get rid of the sections where your foot pegs won’t even fit between trees. It was a fun track but it sucks when you come to trees and don’t even have enough room to put your feet down because your bars are stuck and the trail is so tight.

On another note, thank you to the people that helped me get my bike out of the trail and my helmet off. I appreciate it!! I should have listened to you though and stopped racing right there, about 4 miles from there my chain snapped. I ended up going to the hospital for my leg where you helped me out and I have a huge hematoma (blood filling my leg). The adrenaline was rushing though and I figured it doesn’t hurt unless the bone shows, haha. Thanks again.

Also, Congrats to Aaron Lewis on his 3rd straight win, good race buddy.

Tony Musto, #616 250 C+

Hats off to the designer of the High Gear Dirt Rider plaques given out Sunday. Got many compliments on it. This is one for the wall.

Tom Vasko Quad SR B 756 

During the Pee Wee race this past Sunday at High Gear, there was a lady working the barrels smoking as she was scanning the kids coming through. Now one of those riders is my six year old son and I do not appreciate him being exposed to second hand smoke at anytime, let alone when he is busting his butt out there and has to inhale a cloud of some lady’s cigarette smoke because she can’t wait for that nic fix for forty-five minutes. The parents of these Pee Wee riders pay a nice chunk of change yearly to be in this series, and would like to continue to remain in this series, but I am sure I am not the only parent when I say, I DO NOT appreciate smoke being blown in my sons face as he is coming through the barrels. If you cannot wait forty-five minutes to have a smoke, DO NOT BE PART OF OUR PEE WEE RACE! I am sure there are enough parents out there that would help out at the barrels if need be to keep this woman out of the barrels and from this type of behavior-J. Carling

We have 3 sets of goggles and a bike seat found at High Gear.

Call 315 598 1590. Stephen Geer

 I just want to say thank you to  Casey Crofut #978 this guy is a true sportsmen. He stopped to help me twice as we rode together.  Thank You Casey Great ride.

Byron Wright # 985

Alan Stillwell from Stillwell Performance Suspension has announced that they will add $50 to the AA Hole Shot Award for Round 8 of the WNYOA Hare Scrambles Series at Cayuga Counties Event on – August 1st  !!!

On top of the $50 Hole Shot Award – Cayuga County Riders and Alan Stillwell is pulling An Old Crusty Senior A Rider, Jake Todd out of South Jersey to challenge the AA Riders to catch him during their first lap.  Jake will be riding a Stillwell Performance Suspended KX 250.  We will give Jake a 3 to 5 minute start ahead of the AA class!!!  (time will depend on the conditions of the course)  First AA Rider to Catch Him will Receive a 25% discount off a full front and rear suspension job completed by Stillwell Performance Suspension!!!  

Good Luck and Keep it Pinned – Dave Barnes

A Big Thanks to the 5 or 6 guys who pushed my car ( the green taurus/calif plates) through the mud puddle this afternoon at High Gear. I'm sorry you all ended up getting so muddy...

Thanks Again!!!

Becky Jones

Just wanted to say thanks to the organizers and volunteers at Beaten Trails for putting together a great race.  The course had great variety – loved the creek section – and there were people pointing the way all over the course.  Nice job!

Best regards,

Chris Clarkson

#964 Sr C

Hi all,

Just wanted to say thanks to the volunteers making these events happen, I only started riding at Victory Hill and I’ve had a blast since. The rest of us can only imagine the headaches to pull off a 500+ rider XC race on private land, so props to the organizers (especially Miles Mtn and IDR) for doing an awesome job of it.  Last week there was a volunteer/spectator pointing the way on almost every corner (standing in the dust) so hats off to them.   Looking forward to High Gear and some rain this weekend!

-Tim Howe

 #572 Jr C quads

Thank you to the worker out on the track at Beaten Trails during the Youth Quad race that helped our son Jake Slocum #880 with getting his chain back on so he was able to finish the race.   When there is a 1.8 mile track its good to know there are workers out there willing to help out the younger ones.  Thanks for volunteering your time. 

Dale and Paula Slocum – parents to Jake Slocum Youth Quad #880

Hi I am looking for a couple bikes for my boys to race in the 2011 season one will be in sr. pee wee 7 and the other will be in jr. pee wee 5 and I was told that this was the place to look. If you have anything contact me at johnson5315@verizon.net. Thank you for your help.

Gary Johnson 

Concerning shortening the track.. the statement below was taken from the 2009 rules, the length IS different for 2010, BUT the" EXCEPT WHERE " is still there and in effect..

A hare scramble is an event conducted on a closed course, using trails and paths over natural
terrain. The course will be a minimum of 7.5 miles for bikes, 6.0 miles for quads and at least one
mile for Pee Wee & Youth Quad classes, except where weather and terrain conditions require
course changes and length reduction. An official WNYOA odometer will be used by a WNYOA
designated rider during the event. There will be an appeal process for promoters not meeting the
minimum requirement

Concerning approaching a blocked track..Bottleneck...

Riders encountering a traffic jam or bottleneck may go more than the 25 feet off the course to get
around the bottleneck only. However, the rider must re-enter the course as soon as possible and
upon approaching this section on the next lap, must ride the original arrowed section of the track if
it is clear. If the original marking devices are knocked down, the rider must stay on the original
marked course. A “bottleneck” is a section of the track that becomes impassable for any reason
with the exception of checkpoints

R Jones

The following rule was put in place because of a few situations that for one reason or another the promoter cancelled an event after Friday evening (if my memory serves me correctly one was cancelled Sunday morning and another Saturday afternoon). Many riders were unhappy that they drove all the way to the event only to find that it had been cancelled.

 21. If any WNYOA event needs to be cancelled, (due to weather, etc.) the promoter will notify the WNYOA president on Friday prior to the scheduled event so that the cancellation can be posted on to the WNYOA web site.

I would like to get some feedback on what you would rather do:

1.     Drive to a race and have it cancelled so you have to drive back home. Have it re-scheduled and have to drive back and race another time.

2.     To have the race go on as scheduled even though there may be lots of mud, possibly many bottlenecks and potential scoring issues.

This feedback may help us shape a possible rule change in the future, thanks for your input. You can either reply to the forum or email me directly at: budgetracing@hotmail.com

Arcadia – June 6th, 2010

Well first things first, this race should have never happened. Irregardless of the NY weather always changing, everyone knew that it was going to Thunderstorm everywhere that day.  1-2 inches of rain was acknowledged on the weather station Friday morning, let alone the Tornado warning for Sunday morning.  The conditions for this race were ridiculous. You would think that WNYOA would catch the hint when they were asked for 25+ refunds back,  when normally there are only a few in a weekend.  The Friday cancellation rule isn’t just by any means.  If WNYOA is so concerned about safety, you would think that they would disregard that rule and make the call the day of the race.

Since it not being cancelled, this race should be dropped. This includes everyone, bikes and quads.  10 points being given for every quad that signed up isn’t right.  It is not fair to everyone. The Bikes will ultimately walk away with all their points, money and plaques.  Everyone knows how much more it costs to race quads then it does bikes,  these individuals rely on some sort of payback and acknowledgement for their efforts , we walk away with absolutely nothing.  Considering the bikes now have a 14 race season  and the quads only have 13 races if this would successfully be dismissed, what will WNYOA do to fix this difference?  I feel  if this race was dismissed (bikes, quads & workers) it would allow everyone to take the loss at an equal level.  Without taking away the workers points, they would come out 15 points ahead of everyone when they should have been working to fix the issues of the ribbon being down and people cutting the course.  There should be a strict number of workers for each track, if not, it is should be the promoters responsibility to find workers to cover that amount.  

I would really like to know why the race was stopped after 45 minutes and whos decision it was. After allowing the quads to run for that amount of time, why stop them? People drive hundreds of miles to come to these events in hope of a good time and winning, but yet receive only headaches with all the nonsense. If WNYOA would stop paying out so much money to promoters and scoring “officials”, we could upgrade our scoring system to something more reliable and relieve the issues we’ve had every race weekend so far. These scoring officials are still getting paid for a job not completed.  Also, aren’t we supposed to have a back-up system in place, where two people keep track of each rider that comes through. My opinion for this back-up system, if you can have one person writing the number down while another is writing that lap time down,  it will eliminate any problems, and allow an overall position to be set.

                Another point that needs to be acknowledged is how short the quad track got to be. According to track officials, 3.5 miles is not legal to have a race with for either quads or bikes. I am under the assumption that there is a minimum of 7-8 miles needed for a race.  This was an issue even in the beginning of the day, bikes were running a 6 mile track and that alone wasn’t right. If the property was not large enough to make all our needs be met, this event shouldn’t have even been considered. We all know how much parking is needed for these races, but unfortunately, this weekend, it was disregarded. What was supposed to be a new track, became a new disaster. 

                I believe that there are numerous issues that need to be addressed such as start-up  times, sign-up times being extended to certain individuals and overall disorganization.

                And finally, while us riders and parents wait for our money and plaques to be given out, we were approached by only the promoter in regards to stopping the race. We really should have had our elected positions of WNYOA there to explain why the race was stopped and also how they decided to give 10 points and only the AA riders their refund back.  The Hole Shot recipiant was not allowed to have his money or medalion, which is not fair by any means due to the fact that it is determined in the beginning of the race.  For the top 3 AA riders to not receive any pay out wasn’t fair considering the top 5 guys were awaiting the results. With only 10 AA riders on the line taking off, the pay out would only be the top 3 quads. The top 5 riders were all in agreement of their positions,  which should have allowed there to be a pay out. Once again, allowing the promoter to walk away with even more money.

                Hope you can understand our issues and arguments.

Tag Team Racing
Adriana Tagliavento
Eric Wilczek
Joseph Tagliavento
Jack Tagliavento
Troy Tagliavento
Josh Tagliavento
Zachary Tagliavento

I feel I need to address the comments about what goes on this forum and what does not.. I have been accused of not posting things unless they are possitive comments and I have been asked why Ray intercepted my emails last year and only sent me what he wanted posted.....and this is NOT TRUE... First of all.. NO ONE can get into MY emails. This is my email address, my password... I have never given out the password for anyone to get into my mail.. No one can intercept my mail, just as no one can get into any of yours...Second.. The only thing that does not go on this forum is negativity towards a particular( as stated above) rider or towards a certain person. This is for your protection as well as ours.. If you have proof ( video) or believe that a certain rider cheated, by cutting the track,or proof ( video) that a certain person did something wrong or out of line, then email Mark or the whole leadership team...and let them handle it.... This weekend several people saw an altercation ....I received several emails about it( which were forwarded to Mark)and all had different stories on what happened. They did not get posted and it should be obvious on why..This is not what this forum is for. ALL emails that I receive either get posted or sent to Mark..( Ray in the past).. You can complain all you want about the weather, promotors, tracks..whatever..but if you send me something negitive about a certain rider, naming that rider...or something negitive towards someone else..naming those people, it will NOT be posted.. Everyone's email and phone numbers are listed under "  contact us".. send it to them...

R Jones

I understand that no one can control the weather and that issues may come up, such as the course conditions at Arcadia this year. I can also understand (although disappointed with it) why only the AA class got their money back and everyone only received 10 points. However, with us only receiving 10 points for racing this weekend, the riders that worked this race will now receive 15 more points than ALL OF US, as opposed to only 5 more than the winner of that class. That can be the deciding factor at the end of the year. If we have to be given only 10 points, should the working riders only receive 15? I feel that might make things a little more fair for all of us who went out there and tried to make the best of our day.

Christopher Brofcak 

Quad Jr B #416

I know there is going to be alot of discussion about the Quad race this weekend.. Just wanted to let everyone know that the main reason the Quads were cut short was because there was no way it could have been scored correctly.. There were so many ribbons down and so muddy that riders were going off the track, making their own tracks and doing 5 minute laps.. taking this into consideration...the decission was made to cut the time of the race and to give riders the 10 points..

Concerning the canceling of the race.. If a race is going to be canceled, the decission has to be made on Friday.. The weather was fine until it started raining late Saturday night.. This is New York..Sometimes were told that its going to rain and it doesn't. Other times were told its not going to rain and it does.. Our forcast changes everyday.. sometimes more...

R Jones

The WNYOA is absolutely doing something right.

The tracks are the perfect Hare Scramble tracks. A great variety of terrains.

  Arcadia is nearly a 5 hour ride, but I am planning on being there.

Thanks to everyone and keep up the good work! 

Tom Vasko Sr B 756 

To Tomy M... I tried to start a small group about 6 years ago that would conduct a little award ceremony for the pee wees and Minis. There was very little interest in both, finding help to conducts these ceremonys and very little interest in riders coming down to it.. By the time the minis are off the track and protest time passed, The big bikes are getting ready to start.. Time, and the number of riders we have now, it would take awhile to call every rider and hand them their plaque....I don't know how they are doing the big bikes this year, but I think Ray had something going for handing out the plaques in previous years.. I'm sure if a few volunteers went to the promotors and asked about conducting it, there would be no complaints

R Jones

Thought everyone, especially our Quad riders would like to read this...Lots of Positive Rider thoughts and comments about WNYOA's races and our tracks...

The Quad Builder

http://www.thequadbuilder.net/forums/index.php?s=824a7d92fb1a9bc27d4d91bdfab18ba8&showforum=89  

Tom Vasko Sr B 756 

I have a son that races in the youth atv 70cc class.  I can't say that I was happy with the way that it was run here.  1.7 mile track is to small for these kids, the fast guys are not getting enough track to stay away from all the lappers.  Also I did not see one sweeper on the track, now I know that there are a lot of parents but I have seen the sweepers at other tracks helping the little one out of sticky spots.  And the last thing was the scoring, (Really) how long have we been doing this now that this even happened.  Some families are from far away and need to leave after the race and cant wait for 5 hrs for you guys to get names, numbers, and classes right.  sorry to be blunt but lets see if we can get this fixed the kids deserve it.

T Chandler

HAPPINESS IS...... A RACE WITHOUT RAIN!!!!

R Jones

Thank you all for coming and making another record breaking year.

Mother nature was great to us once again.

Hope to see you all at the next one....

thank you.. Jim S

Jason Rainesis having a riding clinic on:  May 22-23 Canaseraga , NY  camping w/o hook-ups included, meals not included

Information and registration forms can be found on his website at:

http://www.rainesracing.com/

I'm a father of two bike riders one seventeen and one fourteen. I have been reading all the forum comments about the fourwheelers starting late,and other concerns of everyone.I beleave wnyoa was been doing a great job, but there is room for improvement as we grow as an organation. We could start buy shortening the length of the big bike course it don't need to be fourteen miles long this would make it quicker to sweep and into more of a spectator sport also. With the ten o-clock curfew maybe we could start the pewee's a little earlier? We could shorten the big bikes to a hour and a half instead of two hours? There is a link to shutterbug on wnyoa photos, they have a poll about having all the races on saturday and sunday. I don't beleave that this a good idea, I have a hard time getting every thing done around home and on the bikes now during the race season. I'm afaid that if wnyoa does this that it would make wnyoa into a sport that will be to expensive for the most of us. Thanks for every thing wnyoa does for us

Robert Swansbrough

I don't get involved in the sound testing, but, I do know that there are about as many people( neighbors of the promotors) trying to stop the riders from racing on private land , as  there is members in WNYOA.. Since these people can't stop riding on private property, they can complain about the noise and do something about it..that can and will bring WNYOA to an end....There is always going to be someone out there that doesn't realize or understand the importance of sports, and how it effects our kids lives now and in the future..

R. Jones

This is a answer to Mr. Trode’s post:

Currently there is a group doing research on how our sound testing will be done for 2010, this group consists of me (Greg Calkins - HS Bike Rider Rep) and Bucky Laufersweiler (Father of AA Quad Rider Ian and Inspection Chute Coordinator). The testing that we are looking into is patterned from the AMA  guidelines and will be applied to all machines regardless of whether it has two or four wheels. We discussed this at the operations meeting and the reason we are doing the research/ fact finding now is to come up with a fair, repeatable system that can take variables like grass length etc..into account so we don’t have a mess. The promoters have agreed to provide the support to make this system work at every race and between myself and Bucky we can help regulate the testing to make it is the same for every race. I think with that vote all the promoters understood that excessive sound could negatively affect our sport and we want a well thought out, well administered sound check that can lower our sound footprint. I called FMF and their representative relayed to me that they are starting production on optional 94db inserts for all their products but currently a “quiet core” is available for many of their products and with it meet the 96db requirement. Stock machines should meet the requirement (I could not get any information to verify) but for the most part the machines that are the loudest have a aftermarket system on them. We know that requiring quieter machines adversely effects 4-stroke powered racers and we also recognize that the majority of quads are 4-stroke powered but it is not our intention to target anyone. We are simply reacting to an AMA suggestion to reduce our sound footprint to possibly prevent undue negative attention to our sport… no more…no less.

Thanks for voicing your opinion,

Greg Calkins

Bike HS Rider Rep.

WNYOA riders may want to check this out, Charlie Davis

http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=1709

Nick and Becki Wheeler

My name  is Zach Palmer . t the Mountain View race last weekend I lost my White Brothers E Series Pipe in a field section if anyone has it i would like to get it back call or text 607-339-6156 thanks alot

Paul and Vickie,

  As a rider who's been getting "last place" for 12 years, I am offended by the way people act.    Pee wees are not supposed to be FAST, they are learning.  People who can't ride, or are afraid to try, sit on the sidelines and judge those who are on the course.  There will always be someone who says something negative. How about instead of screaming at your kids, you make sure they have their helmets strapped on.  I saw at least 5 kids racing with the strap hanging at CCR.  Is the trophy worth your kid losing it's head?   Paul, put some pom-poms on Morgan's bike, tell her to be proud, and ride.  She's already WON by getting on the starting line!  Someday, that girl just might be kicking everyone's Bum.   And for all the Parents and spectators who judge, YOU really don't have the right to say anything till you get out of the easy chair, "gear up" and get on a bike.   Nichole C. Barnes

hello there i think next yeat that the the quads should start and 11:00 and then let the bikes start at 2:00 and then the year after lets the bikes go first and let the quads go 2nd thanks

Bryan Tennant

GREAT JOB  Moto Masters...

I loved your track... wanted to do more laps..

Marcus Scutt # 100 Mini B

I agree with Bucky about the Dead Engine Start.. If your not doing it.. YOUR CHEATING!!  If you cut the track.. YOUR CHEATING!! If you sign up for a class that you, your spouse or child is not eligible for.... YOUR CHEATING!!  If your a cheater.. then you should be kicked out..no matter WHO  you are..   And your only cheating yourself when you go through sound tech and are told to " Go stuff tape, rubber, etc in your pipe and come back.." and then they pull it out on the start line.. Why waste everyones time... The towns are complaining about the noise.. Keep it up and there will not be any more races to complain about!! The sound tech is there for a reason..Just like the rules...

Jonathan Alvies.. a observant spectator

• Having a year end award option of "2 race entry vouchers" to the rider for the following season, redeemable at any event.  (easily accomplished)-ask me
• See a much smaller, nicer award (like the enduro and top rider awards were) that can be displayed on the wall or bookshelf for long term enjoyment.
• The races spaced out while the kids are still in school trying to focus on final examines, solid racing in the summer and then spaced out in the fall when the kids are trying to get back into the school routine.
• Make more races count, it is a series.

I also have somewhat of a hard time with so many races in a row...and I don,t even race..but we also have to remember that we live in NY.. Our summer season is short. I remember a few years back when we did have a race or two into October and we all froze to death. We have 14-15 races per season but only the best 10 are counted towards the Year End Points. Just because there are 15 races doesn't mean you have to race them all. I'm sure that almost every rider has a race or two that they don't like racing for one reason or another. Other plans, vacations, etc, can be made during those weeks..Then there are the guys that live all winter just to race all summer..even if they were all back to back..... Promotors should be commenting on this also..Are they willing to give up their dates to move into October ?

No matter what, you'll never be able to please everyone.. Don't change what works...

Ron Jones

Many of you have mentioned to me that when the events are jammed into a 5 to 6 event string it is hard to schedule anything but racing in the summer months (I.E. family picnics, vacations etc…). I would like to start an open line of discussion that focuses on this issue. Below are some beginning issues that I think are relevant:

1.       What schedule would we ideally like to see, for example: 3 weeks on and 1 week off (just an example)

2.       How we could accomplish this with help from the promoters. My first thought is if we support events late into the season as we do in the beginning it may give promoters incentive to have a late September or early October events spreading out the season more evenly(My idea only).

3.       Lets discuss setting a maximum number of events. How many events can we fit into our summer and still have some time for other important things?

Again, this is a discussion only and there none of these examples or ideas will be incorporated unless discusses & voted on. Please note: It may seem that in our series that the regular “Joe Rider” doesn’t have a say in the way the rules/ schedule/ business of WNYOA are formed/reformed, the voice of the riders can be heard and accounted for on this forum. There are many people with good ideas out there let’s hear them!

Greg Calkins

Bike Rider Rep.

Ithaca Recreation Sports would like to invite all of our customers to our campsite for desert and giveaways on Saturday night at River Ratz at 7:00pm.

Amy and Jeff

At this past race (Cayuga County) I seemed to have left my helmet at the track. It is a flat black HJC, Medium. My #499 sticker should still be on the left cheek of the helmet. If anyone has any information please contact me at (607) 206-9904. Thank you

Christopher Brofcak

College B #499

Riders and spectators: Check out the two sites below. The first one has some great action close-ups photos, and the second one has some great photos from a totally different prospective, arial and elevated views.  Both photographers will be adding more photos over the next few days, so keep checking. Hope that you enjoy these memories of our event, and thanks for helping us have a fun weekend. Charlie Davis. Ithaca Dirt Riders President.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdanvers/sets/72157620699244042/detail/
http://landmarkimages.smugmug.com/gallery/8721030_notFn#576313400_RGGWC    

(these photo links are also under our photo page)

To everyone with Square Deal Riders.....

Mother Nature has not been nice to you the last few years..Even though it was a muddy mess..you guys did a great job..

The kids had a blast...

RL Jones

At the Victory Mountain race  our son, Julian Rich # 351, overheated and his radiator cap cracked. We would like to thank the lady who pulled him off his bike, before the cap blew off.If you had not reacted as you did, his face would have been severely burned.Thank you so much..

Scotty and Nicole Rich

As for the loud partying until almost 2:00am this weekend, I think it is time to govern that more as well. Again WNYOA has rules against this too(see rule below). Why is it that these rules can't be inforced?

I hate to blame the promoters, but it is their responsibility to enforce these rules. It seems no one wants to be the bad guy. Who cares if you loose 5,10, or 25 riders. With the turn out WNYOA is seeing these days, lets weed out the sour apples so everyone can enjoy thier weekend a little more.

LENNY BALTIMORE VET A #369

2009 Curfew and generator placement....

A 10:00 PM quiet time curfew will be enforced at all WNYOA events for loud music, partying, howling, and loud noises. All generators will be turned off by 10:00pm on Saturday night and will not be turned on before 7:00am on Sunday morning. Starting in 2009, all portable generators are to be located at the living area entrance side. It is the promoting club responsibility to check the pit areas and to enforce the 10:00pm curfew. The promoting club referee, WNYOA referee, promoter or any of the WNYOA officers has the right to disqualify all persons involved in the violation of this ruling. In addition, the WNYOA referee has the right to suspend persons from participation in future WNYOA events. Each promoter will post a sign at the event registration area naming a contact person for all/any emergencies that arise.

f) Pit riding/racing will absolutely not be tolerated. Riders and their families, in addition to all spectators, are in the same area. Any rider allowing another person to violate these rules will also be disqualified. Riders will only be allowed to ride in 1st gear when traveling to and from their pit area and must be wearing a helmet at all times. In addition, there will be no passengers allowed on any motorcycle or quad. Each promoter may provide a specified area for warm up or jetting.

g) Any infractions of these rules will be subject to:

i. First offense, Disqualification for the day.

ii. Second offense, he/she will be suspended from the WNYOA series for 1 year.

Many of the club's and promoters received an e-mail from AMA last week pertaining to a new ON-LINE Magazine that AMA has started. I hope that you all will take time to check it out. http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/AMARacer/ During a meeting that Ray Goulet and I had with Dave Hombroff of AMA this past weekend, Dave announced that they are looking for articles to be submitted for this new ON-LINE Magazine.  If you feel that you have the time and talent to write articles about our series for this national on-line magazine. please contact Ray or myself and we will help you get them submitted.

Thank you Charlie Davis

I am looking for anyone that took pictures of the Quad race last weekend. Please send info to: prupe@frontiernet.net

Perry Rupa

I was wondering what people thought of splitting up
the C  classes from the the B and A classes .I am a senior Crider and its almost 20 Min's till we get off the
line.The other thing thing is I get tired of the B and A riders justrunning in to me to get me out the way in single track
wherethere is no way to get out of there way.One AA rider could have killed me he hit me in single track I went over a bank that was steep.It took 2 spectators to get bike out of there luckily I didn't fall farther or probably wouldn't
be here today.It is not entirely there fault. They are faster  and that's what it comes down to.I would like the
chance to get better but were into the 1st lap and here theycome the AA and the As.We need our own race. Also this would
cut down so many people on course at the same time.This is just something I like some other comments on

Rick Vonderchek Sr C 981

First, we would like the family of Darrin to know we continue to think about him, keeping him in our thoughts and prayers, and hope to see him back next year.  We are very interested to know how he is doing.  I myself have two sons who race and the concern that most riders show to their fellow racers is why we have not missed a single race since we started.  At our very first race after two laps of the leaders in the mini race, my son didn’t come around.  This was his very first race and it was pretty easy to tell I was getting pretty worried.  Then the leader of the mini race, Jacob Kneebone, while leading the race, and who I had only spoken a few words to at the starting line, was kind enough to stop in the middle of his race and let me know that my son had crashed in the woods, but he was OK, he just couldn’t get his bike restarted.  We have not forgotten that day, and to the Kneebone family, you should be very proud of your son.  Now on to the remarks made by Jim Heffron.   Although I understand many of the comments made by riders and their parents, there is no way that everyone will be happy with every rule.  That said, I have to agree with Jim’s perspective that we all know the rules and should not try to make a rider feel less than proud for winning a championship where everyone has the exact same rules and opportunities to race and work.  Jim, you really said it well!  The reason we have an opportunity to race is because of all the hard work put in by many people.  Personally I think if more people would work at least one race each year, there would be a lot less complaining about the track conditions and those people who do most of the complaining would have a much better appreciation of how hard it is to build a great race course.   Also, without the 5 extra points for an incentive, there would be fewer workers and some of the races might not be possible.  So thank you to the promoters, and thank you to every single person, rider or not, who helped make this a great year of racing!   

Cheers and I hope to see everyone at the banquet,

Rich Albrecht 937 Bikes, Billi Jo Albrecht 186 Quads, Allen Albrecht 390 Quads, Jacob Albrecht 369 minis, and Jordan Albrecht 526 Pee Wee’s

When it comes to "crying" about the rules, it was done a long time ago, by the people that couldn't handle only having 2 throw aways. If that "crying" wouldn't have been done, then the season would have come out a lot different for a lot of people, including me. Your right, my point winner did have the perfect 10 races, but if it would have been 14 counted, and I got beat, no complaints from me. That's how I wanted to get beat if it was to happen. If you can't make it to all of the races, fine, but for us that can, let us race for everything, not for just what the part-time racers can run for. I am a full time college student, along with having a full time job and being a full time parent, and I still show up to support the WNYOA series every weekend. If you can't make it every weekend, it is what it is, but like I said, let us race for it all. When it comes to sponsors, I am just a C rider but I managed to grab 18 of them, and it sucks to tell them that I had the point lead until races started getting taken away. But it is what it is and congrats to everyone for a good year. I would like to say great season to: Ben Bouwens #23, Sam Runeare #812, William Rypkema #827, Kyle Trantham #757, Nathan Couse #711, and the crew from home: Aaron Lewis #617, Keith Sproule #717, Jack Lewis #984, and Josh Bellow #444 Junior B Champion, Show the A's how to ride next year Josh!!!!!

Tony Musto #832 Open C

With our sincere prayers and thoughts of peace, we wish for a complete and expedient recovery for your son Darrin.  We also extend our well wishes to Darrin's entire family as this time is undoubtedly exhausting. 

The Crouse Family

Thoughts & Prayers to Darrin and his family while he recuperates..If there is anything WNOYA can do to help the family through this, all you have to do is call..

Becky Jones

doc

I would just like to say thank you to the men and women that made the River Ratz track, and worked the event! You did a phenomenal job, and in my opinion it was the track of the year by far. I loved the hills and did not mind the dust. The course workers were great, and when I crashed on a hill a course worker was right there too give me a hand. So kudos on a great race and an amazing track!

A.J. Scheffler

If you picked up a Monster Umbrella at the King Ferry race up by the start, please turn it in at sign up with my name on it or contact me.. IThanks

rjwnyoa@yahoo.com

Hey, I just got home from the King Ferry race. While there my pit neighbors brought it to my attention that my EZ-UP my have caused some damage to another families RV at the IDR race. My tent was broken when I finished the race and I was sure that something had happened. I didn’t hang out for to long after the race as I got caught on the barbwire and had to go for a few stitches. Please contact me so that I can make it right by you. Also, thank you for setting it back up and lowering it. I don’t know why I didn’t stake it I usually do. 

Shawn #966

H- 315 889 5823

C- 518 879 9002

Saturday between 3:30 and 6:00 at the Rich campsite, we are having cupcakes and a bounce house in celebration of Julian Richs 5th birthday which is Sunday the 20th. We want to invite anyone who wants to stop by our campsite to join us for a little birthday fun!! (Gifts not necessary).  Julian looks forward to seeing his race buddies. 

Thanks,

Scottie Rich and family

We would like to send our most sincere condolences to James Traphagen as he lost his wife in a tragic accident on Monday.  We are thinking of you and your family during this difficult time.

Scottie Rich and Family

I want to thank the sign up crews for all their hard work to get everyone signed up as quickly as possible. However, I think with the rapidly-expanding size of the rider contingent, WNYOA needs to explore some type of online pre-entry for the hare scramble events. Then once at the event, the rider could confirm that they are at the race. The sign up line at Dream Riders took well over an hour to negotiate. Dan Jarecke Vet A

hi would just like to send out a excellent start to new season to Scott Rich, to go from bikes to quads thats no easy task so my hats off to you my friend, keep it up and kick butt and take names. " aka The teacher " Rick Armstrong

GREAT JOB TO ALL OF THE ARCADIA BARK BUSTERS. Your event was a great event, and also the weather was great. I walked around the pits, the starting area, track, signup, scoring area, and I could tell that you put in a lot of time and effort in putting on a quality Hare Scramble. Your trails were in my opinion excellent, they had a good mix of grass track and technical tight trail, and plenty of places to pass. The scoring ares was placed in a very convenient location so things could be easily accessed. The pits were awesome starting with the cones down the middle for a roadway and also the mowed fields for parking, also a dumpster for trash, plenty of porta johns. You had a great area for your emergency squads and a roadway for them to get there equipment in and out of. This is a again in my opinion, a testament to what can happen when you have a group of dedicated off-road bike and quad riders that truly love this sport, and would like to continue making it a better sport. You only get out of what you have, by what you put into it, and it shows that everyone involved put in a tremendous amount of man hours. In ending this I would like to say the most amazing accomplishment of this event is that it was all put together in the last 5 weeks. Again hats off to you all, for your dedication to this great Hare Scramble. CHUCK REED #879 B-SENIOR AND BIKE RIDER REP.

The "perfect race!" The guys that put this race on (in 4 weeks I might add!) did an incredible job - hats off to them - they couldn't have done it any better! 

I talked to so many riders, not only did they love the track, they had a good time - isn't that what it's all about? Thanks for putting the spirit back into the race guys. Excellent job!

-Jackie C.

I have been riding Hare Scrambles since the Mid 70’s and I can honestly says that your event ranked right up there as being one of the best laided out tracks and superior service and sign –up…………Great job by all……….Thanks You

Dominic Sileo

Manager , Product Test

607-751-2826 

Dom.Sileo@LMCO.com

Just wanted to say that the Arcadia Bark Buster Race was excellent!!! Especially considering that the crew only had a few weeks to get a track laid out and the event organized. The course workers should be quite proud as well...there a couple troublesome spots, but the workers were on top of them quickly...temporarily re-routing while they filled in ruts, or pulled bikes out. Kudos Arcadia!! Mark B...#543

I ,too, would like to thank Arcadia Bark Busters for such a well organized event and laid out track. The camping area was great and located so everything was easily accessed without long walks. The track was laid out not only good for racing but for those of us that can only watch. There were numerous places that a good deal of the track could be seen. Us spectators and support people like to see not only their riders but the whole field for more than a short glance over a 2 hour period. The length of Arcadia's track was perfect, therefore the field was able to do more laps and we as spectators were able to see more action. Once again, GREAT job and thanks to the Busters and all that helped to make the event so successful. On another note, and this is a little biased. could those that give the talk at the starting line before each event stress to the riders that if someone comes up behind them and is trying to get by to please pull over and let them pass. This is not only courteous but can help prevent riders from taking unnecessary chances. Granted Arcadia's track had plenty of grass track to pass in however,being such a good viewing track I could see many long trains of bikes in the woods with a few slow bikes holding up many others. After viewing this as a spectator. I talked to several riders and they confirmed that slow bikes weren't letting them by. Maybe some riders aren't aware that they are causing this.

Thanks again to everyone that make these weekend soooo fun!!! Chris....Neen's dad #2

To the Arcadia Bark Busters, I hope the rest of the races are just like that one. You helped all of us riders put on a great show. I was glad to see that we finally got to a hare scramble and out of the fields. You spaced the open spots out perfect so when our bikes got heated up, we would have a good straight strech to cool them back down. It was also very nice to get into a technical course and see how everyone can really ride. Thank you so much, Hope to see you again next year. To all of the other riders, Congrats for being able to going. The course was very technical and yet there were not very times when riders were down. Good Job. Tony #832

Just checking in to see how Mary, the young lady from the mini's class, is doing. She took a spill at the harescrambles and bumped her leg pretty bad. She was quite a trooper about it, though. Hope she is doing well! Jim Heffron Course worker

Kudos to Arcadia! They made a major impression on our group. Was grand to see the head's spread out. :) The layout was very good. I mentioned letting the peewee signups get moved up in line for registration and they did. How great is that? Courteous people and great support team. I just want to remind everyone; please pick up after yourselves......Please be courteous back. Smokers [which I am one] please put your butts in garbage....it's no wonder smokers get bad names with the careless attitudes of disposal. Three cheers to the Arcadia crew!!!!!!!!!!

Bright and Warm Blessings

Sassy Arnold Grandmother to three riders!

I lost my rear grab bar at some point during the quad race at arcaidia...if anyone happened to pick it up could you email me at sxcracing@hotmail.com or call 607-316-7519 or just bring it to the next race and leave it at the signup tent. That would be great! Its a PRM product rear grab bar. Thank you so much Brad Schultes Quad # 415

I personally would like to commend the Arcadia Bark Busters for conducting an outstanding Hare Scramble this past weekend. This club was formed four weeks ago and in that short time frame they not only met all the AMA requirements but also designed a course and conducted and event that people enjoyed. There were 532 riders in attendance which is over 100 riders greater than the average hare scramble conducted last year.

Ray Goulet

Ditto on the great organization, marked trail and friendly reception as we entered the field and at sign up.

 Hats off for a job well done.

 Ed Ponikvar

Just a quick note to the guys in the 250 A line. It was nice meeting and bench racing with you fellas after the race. Near last off the line it was pretty cool that no one punted me off any of the bridges as we tore through the first part of the grass track. Nice to finish a race with a little bar banging and creative lines without any complaints from anyone. I think I finally found the class that excepts my off the pegs attempts to get faster and race the coarse as hard as I can. Thanks for introducing me to a great bunch of guys Tom.

I would like to give a hats off salute to ALL of the promoters that put on races for the WNYOA series! Being part of Arcadia and working as hard as we did to pull off the event I have a whole new respect for everyone involved in ANY event. There is so much that goes into putting on an event, I had no clue, until involved first hand. All promoters, workers and anyone involved in any aspect of putting on a race deserve kudos and I'll be the first to say thank you and thank you ahead of time for the upcoming races. Keep up the good work. Jerry Bulman

423 West Ave

Newark NY 14513

315-331-2077

315-879-7344

Arcadia Barkbusters would like to give a big thanks to everyone who was involved in putting on this race in such a short time given. This includes the group of hard working men and women and their families and friends who worked extremely hard to put on an excellent race. Also to all of the other workers from the outside including the landowners, vendors, the businesses who supplied the necessary equipment or supplies that we needed, the Fairville Fire Dept. & ambulance crew, and anyone else that we may have missed. A big thank you to everyone else from Ray & Debbie and to all of the riders and spectators and their families and friends for supporting and giving us, a new promoter, a chance to show you that we are capable of providing a successful event. We couldn't have done it and suceeded with out you. Again a BIG THANKS to all & hope that everyone had a great time. See you next year. Debbie V.

Hello everyone. I was just wondering what everyone thought about the idea of when you work an event for WNYOA, as long as your a registered rider, you could get a plaque that said WORKED or PARTICIPANT. Would that give you more incentive on top of the 25 points to work an event? Everyone likes plaques, and this is a way to show that you worked the event on top of the 25 points. Please post here and let WNYOA know what you think about this idea. Tony #832

HATS OFF TO MY BRO NATE THOMAS FINISHING THIRD, AND ON THE PODIUM WITH THE PROS AT MILES MOUNTAIN. KEEP UP THE RAGE OF RACING , GOOD LUCK WITH WNYOA, BUT EVEN BETTER LUCK WITH THE NATIONALS!!!! GREAT JOB! NICK.THOMAS

The folks at Miles Mountain need take example from Arcadia on how to put on a good event. This year was a major disappointment. Delayed events and track workers with cavalier attitudes.......and drinking. My Grandson, Keegan Satterly ended up breaking down on the first lap way up in the woods. My daughter kept telling track officials he had not come back but they said to wait till the race was over. He is ten and we worried about his finding his way back. He finally did make it back with our Hero, Jim Bouden.....[hope I spelled correctly] who saved Keegan when he encountered a black bear and was about to run. Jim told him to stay still and pushed Keegan behind him. Fortunately the Bear realized he/she had met their match and decided to leave this Papa Bear alone!!!! The bear was as close as 5 feet away from them. Jim, I know everyone suggested throwing Keegan at the bear and making a run for it, :) but I am eternally grateful that you didn't. You are a blessing and our Hero! I then heard that the track people knew about this bear for a week and gave no warnings to the participants. Jeremy, you complained about the kids NOT staying with their bikes and stating that you knew about the bear. Shame on you. You can claim the bear is harmless all you want but anyone knows that it doesn't take much to set them off. The workers kept putting off going to find the bike and after a couple hours finally did take Keegan with them to get it. The poor Kid could not remember where and they came back frustrated and in the mean time we were worried about it getting stolen with all the gear on it. Oh, no, don't worry about that we were told. A friend of a friend became concerned when dark was approaching and took Jim with him on his 4 wheeler to get the bike while the workers stopped off for whatever......we did notice the beer can in the Kubota........So we come to our second Hero of the day, Chad. He had made trips around the track alone and could not find the bike until he got Jim to show him where. Jim was riding the bike back when the workers were finally on their way again. Two young men were by the bike when they arrived and Jim told them the bike didn't run, they stated that it did. Hmmmmmmmmm, what does this tell you? Chad and Jim got to the bike just in time. When it is peewee's or mini's I think the sweepers should be bringing these kids and their bikes back to the starting point. This has been a valuable lesson that I hope everyone will learn from. Also, it is time the Heads got cleaned up! We kept getting put off by numerous track people with non challant attitudes. Racing is not cheap and we do not usually stick around but this time we had no choice. I do give Kudos to the ladies working the concession, they were great! Again, I remind everyone to clean up after themselves...............

Bright and Warm Blessings Sassee Arnold, grandmother to three racers.

Parents please be aware of other kids riding pit bikes or bikes in general threw camping and grass areas. My 3 year old was hit by a girl wearing a bikini on a small pit bike? while waiting for results to be posted on the bulletin board at Miles Mountain. He was playing with other children running around when he ran out she was cutting in front of the board with the bike. Thank god she wasn't going any faster than she was. We didn't realize until after she took off that he had a good size gash on his wrist where skin was missing. We have been attending WNYOA events for 5 years and are fully aware of bikes and atvs cutting threw camping areas, but this girl was not a rider and there was no reason for her to be riding around. She was maybe 13 years old why she was riding around on bike in a bikini who knows.

MOM OF A MINI RIDER